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[Aug. 28th, 2012|07:55 pm]
under every scar, theres a battle I've lost
Every time theres an explosion in yee olde abortion debate I can't help but wonder why anti abortion groups haven't twigged that if you made abortions illegal they would still occur.

An activist war cry of "stop abortion" is a bit like touting "stamp out alcoholism", it's a nice idea but it's not going to happen. Therefore you could better put your time into related causes.

A bunch of ill informed ignorant people waving banners around won't solve all the problems that go into causing abortions, legal or otherwise, to occur. I sometimes wonder if this is the result of dumbing down, the people put so much effort into making little campaigns that ultiamtely just waste time and air.

In the documentary below a woman has a go at some activists for showing gorey images outside a kids shop and i have to say - love free speech as I do - right on. It's the equivalent of showing pictures of a dead plastic surgery addict alongside a shelf full of barbie dolls.


The thing is if you show an abortion activist a picture of a dead adult, often, I find they have an errie ambivalence to it, kind of "meh". Thats the sign of someone who's just got swept away with an idea not someone operating on a well thought out mission to improve society. To a normal person, sure a partial birth abortion image is horrific but an image of a murdered cvilivian in a war zone should be equally so.

If someone is anti-abortion then they should structure a campaign around education on birth control, providing resoruces to people who have abortions for financial reasons etc If you set out with the idea that you're goiong to eliminate abortion by making it illegal then you might as well start a war on drugs in the hope that people will stop taking them....ah wait shit.

[User Picture]From: ibid
2012-08-29 06:50 am (UTC)
Paraphrasing Clive James, there isn't a choice between legal abortion and babies, there is a choice between legal abortion and illegal abortion.
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[User Picture]From: devereux1880
2012-08-30 12:04 pm (UTC)
I suppose it makes sense from a government point of view that if everyone has one kid more than they can really handle then it keeps them knuckled down and focused on working more hours. In that documentray you see the reasons women give for having abortions and near the top was ~continuing education~ and I think alot of women drop out of uni/american college because they get pregnant, they drop out because they want to keep the babies but alot are choosing to keep on with the education. It seems a bit too convienient to me to be having all these brain washed people homing in on a procedure thats enabling huge numbers of people to become better educated and perhaps own a company one day rather than work in one. Getting a bit crowded at the top perhpas?

TBH I also find it a bit odd that this is always presented purely as a women's issue and the only men speaking out are anti-abortion. I think most men are quietly relived the option exists but they wouldn't turn out to a demonstration etc Again back to the doc where a woman goes to get an abortion because her family is already large; I am guessing her husband was in on that decision because they worked out they could not afford another child. However it seems like as much as it would ruffle feathers for a woman to go to a demonstartion and say "I'm a mother of three and I had an abortion" it would be REALLY badly received for a man to say "I'm a father of three and I supported my wife having an abortion because we couldn't handle another".

*edited cause I can't spell hungover/at all

Edited at 2012-08-30 12:06 pm (UTC)
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[User Picture]From: hackenpaste
2012-10-28 04:05 pm (UTC)
I'm back.
Give me a hug.
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[User Picture]From: devereux1880
2013-07-22 08:39 pm (UTC)
hugs in yo face
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